This is a reply by our commenter White GeNOcide to a pro-white on another site who doesn’t care for our Mantra methods. It includes some material in WG’s other comment that’s in our preceding article, What good does it do to drive the Stop White Genocide memes into the mainstream?
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If Edward Bernays had been confined to a small internet forum, or two or three similar, reaching a few thousand “outliers”, ie, the sort of people who seek out such obscure fora, his methods would’ve flopped. But because he had access to the new mass media— radio, movies, magazines and then TV, he is now proclaimed a “genius”.
Nothing that a few hundred million dollars wouldn’t fix, and make Mr. Whitaker a “genius” too.
We too have had “access to (today’s) new mass media” — the internet.
So what has actually happened (as opposed to what you say could not possibly happen) is that the internet has enabled a mere handful of BUGSers to succeed in anchoring the terms “anti-white” and “white genocide” in the mainstream.
Do pro-whites even recall that just a few years ago those terms were unheard in the mainstream?
The term “anti-white” has created a new category that didn’t previously exist in most white minds nor in the national conversation: policies and persons that are injurious to whites. Whites and everyone else had been trained to only think, and certainly only speak, of other races as ever receiving injury.
That’s a momentous change, and I wonder what small percentage of pro-whites are even aware of the change.
“Anti-white,” being a word that was sorely needed just linguistically as well as socially/politically, has quickly passed through the stage of being considered a joke (I remember an excellent and frightening British TV comedy skit based on it a few years ago) and is now beginning to be used as a valid term, as in Prof Thornhill’s saying “My White Racism course is not anti-white.”
Attention has to be paid to what has already actually happened, not to claims that it could not possibly happen because there is no such thing as the internet.
The process has just begun. The term “White Genocide” will go through the same transition from being a joke to being a serious topic of national discussion.
You believe no significant changes will accompany that change in white mindset? The younger folk here will get to see!
Our job is not to predict the future, but to work to make a future possible. Judging from today, other pro-white commotion will be taking place while whites’ mindsets are being changed, commotion that hopefully will develop into something other than clown shows that do more to keep present white mindsets in place than to change them. I find all that stuff difficult to judge the final effects of, actually.
“Todays’ pro-Whites are the new Samizdat.” The FWG writer is being generous there, or is stretching reality to create reality — BUGSers and those who help us are the new Samizdat, and if the internet becomes shut to us we’ll need to shift to operating more like the old Samizdat.
Only the slightest number of pro-whites here or anywhere else, including the clueless (when it comes to tactics, and tactics are what is needed) pro-white “leadership,” have the slightest interest in what we BUGSers or Bob Whitaker have said about anything, and that continues to baffle me — there’s something there about human nature that I don’t understand that I hope will be revealed to me before I pass on.
And now I’m way over my allotted involvement here — I don’t want to drift back into old habits that take up all my time, so I’ll leave what I’ve put on this thread to the inattention of the rest of you. Cheers!
“clown shows that do more to keep present white mindsets in place than to change them. I find all that stuff difficult to judge the final effects of, actually.”
A lot of the boots on the ground demos have been cringe-worthy, but hopefully that’s beginner’s pains.
Some of the online stuff, the activation at critical times of “troll armies” on twitter, and phone swarming, may have been very helpful:
“Camp of the Saints” White Genocide Caravan approaches through Mexico
Two other attempts to keep pro-whites consistently on message:
An Anti-White By Any Other Name
The “Don’t Worry About White Genocide” Conference of 2018
These are mostly the leaders who led during the long decades when the pro-white “movement” was dead in the water.
Their approaches to awakening whites bore no fruit during those decades, but still their followers became thoroughly conditioned, just by long association with their leaders’ approaches, to believe deeply in those approaches. Followers’ donations also helped the leaders do their work, and in some cases helped provide leaders a living — anyone who, usually through courage but sometimes through accident or doxing, becomes publicly pro-white, can have a very hard time making any sort of normal living.
If those leaders just continue today to use the same approaches they’ve always used, they run little risk of losing their followers.
But if they bewilder their followers by taking a new approach, those followers will go elsewhere, like a radio audience whose favorite station suddenly changes its format.
All this is not to cast aspersions on either the leaders or their followers, since IMO both groups are sincere about what they do (few pro-white leaders or followers seem able to appreciate the effectiveness of the Mantra method enough to adopt it), and the psychology I’ve described is probably rarely conscious.
It’s just human nature combined with the human condition. But it’s a problem!
I want to thank everyone of you for the job you are doing in fighting for the survival of our people. I agree 100% that we need a message and that we need to repeat it constantly.
My question is this: Would it have been more effective to begin by putting out messages telling our people that we have the right to live just like every other race and ethnic group does? The reason I ask is because if we talk about white genocide and white people have been brainwashed into believing that they are evil and that their people don’t deserve to survive, the genocide message might go right past them.
Our people have been so cruelly demonized and have internalized the anti-white narrative that many are working against their own best interests.
I am interested in your thoughts.
Yes, “the genocide message” often does “go right past them,” when they first hear it. And it usually raises a bit of a ruckus as it goes past.
But we are repeating, repeating, repeating the genocide message in venues that often have a sizable white audience. If we get the message firmly in the minds of the white population, and make it a prominent topic of private and public discussion, we think it will do a lot to subvert whites’ present state of having “been brainwashed into believing that they are evil and that their people don’t deserve to survive.”
That the White Genocide message can do that may sound contradictory, but we think that no people, whatever the condition their minds have been put in, can have the fact that they are being genocided shoved in their face over and over without developing a feeling about it that’s rather different from hating their own race, or from passively accepting whatever is done to their race. Whites’ present state of racial self-hatred is a state close to hypnosis, and genocide is a shock word that can break through the hypnosis.
While we hammer the genocide message, we also hammer the meme “White self-hatred is SICK!!!” to help break up that state of whites hating their own race.
Our introduction of the terms “anti-white” and “White Genocide” into the mainstream is also helping to put whites on the table as being worthy of discussion from a different viewpoint than formerly, which is a change that should also subvert white self-hatred. A little more about that in the next comment.
Thanks for your kind words, and please feel welcome to ask further questions or further pursue this one. 🙂
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As mentioned at the link “anti-white,” before the term anti-white was introduced into the mainstream in recent years, whites were not even generally conscious that they could suffer racial injury just like any other race. That seems strange now, but it was normality then.
That unawareness extended and still extends to whites’ feelings of racial unworthiness, feelings whites don’t acknowledge as having, even when they’re required by social or political circumstance to repeat a liturgy of white unworthiness.
Such unawareness is akin to hypnosis, and can hopefully be broken up by strong but accurate phrasings like “White Genocide” that bring the listener into a state of wakefulness.
Hopefully this comment isn’t too esoteric or speculative! I think the management team here would agree with what I’ve written in these two comments, but if not, hopefully they will present their different thoughts.
A long time ago I myself identified as a liberal. I never was so far to the left as to identify as a Marxist or Communist, but I also felt for the longest time that nonwhites were oppressed and that we had to listen to their grievances. This is what I was constantly told. You know what changed me? It was listening to a very anti-white liberal radio station in which they would constantly talk about how nonwhites were oppressed and impoverished; however, they never mentioned the poor white, who I knew existed in the thousands, maybe millions. They constantly demonized whites and elevated nonwhites to victim status.
Also, dealing with nonwhites and their pointing their finger at me and calling me racist made me think a lot about how whites will be treated if we become a minority in America.
So hopefully enough whites will stop feeling racially unworthy and join with us in seeking the survival and self-determination of our people.
It’s always interesting to learn how a white’s views changed — thanks!
Yeah, when anti-whites give it their all, they do some of our best work! 🙂
Thank you WUNTZ MOORE for the reply. It was very thorough and you have very good points.
I am going to continue to use the Mantra and the terms White Genocide and anti-white. I’ve always believed that our enemies won because they have been on message (even though their message is the wrong one!) for decades, and that is what we need to do.
I vacillate between believing that we whites will eventually win and believing that America will one day be a cross between South African and Brazil, with the majority of whites being absorbed into the nonwhite population.
This leads me to my next question. When I first started tweeting I was making quite a few comments about whites separating into their own homeland. I did this because I firmly believe that ultimately we will have to do this to survive and admittedly, I like the idea! Is this something I should continue to pursue besides hammering the idea of White Genocide? The homeland talk actually makes anti-whites unable to respond to me, so I feel that the talk of a homeland is actually making them stop and think about their ideologies and the homeland idea.
Thanks for your response.
We’re not really set up at BUGS right now to take a look at each other’s postings and offer advice (we hope to be able to resume a form of doing that for each other soon, and you would be welcome! 🙂 )
In our own postings we try not to mix the White Genocide material with other issues, since that can make the penetration of the White Genocide meme depend on the audience’s response to the other issue.
But since I haven’t seen exactly what you’re doing, and in what context, I’m hesitant to offer advice. It sounds like what you’re doing is having a good effect. When you’re having a good effect with something your heart is in, you’re probably on a good road, right? 🙂 Keep as much of an eye as you can on what your effect seems to be on the white audience.
You have me curious about what you’re posting! I’m enjoying reading your well-written comments here. And thanks for being a pledge taker.
Thank you for your response. I will continue with the White Genocide memes since our people’s understanding of this subject is so critical to our race’s survival.
Regarding the ideas of a white homeland and voluntary separation, I also will continue with these ideas because I feel that they are making some people stop and think about a subject that they have never considered. Also, I would like to begin to condition our people’s minds to the idea of racial separation, which many of us whites will have to work on in the future if we want our race to survive and have self-determination. My thinking is that the conditioning will take quite some time and when the environment is right, our people will have seen the terms “voluntary separation” and “white homeland” numerous times so that it will not be a complete shock to them when some of our people begin to vigorously promote these ideas.
Thank you for your guidance.
A nice thing about the Mantra material is that you don’t need to be a journeyman BUGSer — as a beginner you can honestly be just as effective, just by using what’s suggested on this page:
Your Stop White Genocide talking points, repeater phrases, memes — ready for use!
For people interested in developing advanced skill in delivering the Mantra material, Beefcake’s Bootcamp podcasts are very good.
“Repeating yourself does seem childish, but that’s what rules the world” ~ H. Avenger